Yeah sure. @deathhero61: For the obvious fact that Namek Goku would get slaughtered by 18? 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Others 4 Discussions Trunks(トランクス) is a protagonist in theDragon Ballmanga, and the anime seriesDragon Ball Z, and Dragon Ball Super. after the buu saga, powers are based on Theory and multipliers DRAGON BALL CLÁSSICO Contents. Edit. After all, Korrin blatantly told Goku Post-RosT training that Cell was still stronger than him, despite the fact Cell hadn't displayed his full potential. But by the time Buu rolls around, Goku and Vegeta are both many times stronger than Gohan was at Cell. The overall fight was filler between Goku and Vegeta vs Buuhan but they were beyond trashed.Also filler when Base Vegito fought Buuhan but that's one filler that actually fits quite well into the main story. 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Looking at the fight, before Abo and Cabo started using their special abilities, Goten and Trunks were handling them rather easily. They haven't outputted levels of power on par with at least those two in every category. That is not to say he never has. Oozaru= Base x10 Base. He barely struggled. Base Edit. @dratini1331: Yeah in their base while having that stupid mighty mask costume, they were able to fight 18 quite evenly. Goten is known for looking almost identical to his father as a child, to the point when Goku firs… So 5yrs after Buu Saga the difference wouldn't be that much Even my best conservative estimates put him at a highest of 70-72mil by the time of "Battle of Gods". Tarble says that Abo and Cado are "As strong as Freeza was". Why SSJ Vegito was 2 leagues ahead of SSJ3 Gotenks. Their fusion never actually fought buu until after ROSAT, where they were also a SSj 3 fusion. Power Levels of dragon ball z official (up to DBS). Trunks is pretty much on Goten's level, just slightly stronger. So yeah im in denial and what not. Trunks Special Android 17: 60,000,000 Android 18: 60,000,000 SS Gohan: 70,000,000 SS Trunks: 45,000,000: Here, the Android's power levels are based on the guesses from the Android saga. Just maybe, ssj vegeta when he first appeared in the android saga but cell saga goku is really and i mean really pushing it. There're pretty strong. Gohan had to give them instructions since they didn't know how to use their ki. He said that namek goku doesn't compare to goten and trunks in power. Technically, future Trunks is stronger because for all we know, he still trained after defeating cell and 17 and 18. But says they'd be perfect for the kids. Goten pressuring GOHAN of all people in a sparring session? @deathhero61: No it isn't. Name: Gotenks Origin: Dragon Ball. BTW goten and trunks did not give 18 trouble. 1 Emperor Pilaf Saga; 2 Tournament Saga; 3 Red Ribbon Saga; 4 General Blue Saga; 5 Commander Red Saga; 6 Fortuneteller Baba Saga; 7 Tenshinhan Saga; 8 Piccolo Daimao Saga. Which may place Goten and Trunks around 1.5-2mil a piece. If its more than that its possible he might be a rogue God of Destruction from another universe. Goten's appearance as a child is very similar to Goku's childhood look, including messy, unkempt hair, same eye color, lighter-pale complexion and a playful face. Due to the ROSAT however, that may bring them close to Cell Saga Super Saiyan Goku's standard, but likely not equal to (and for the record, Super Saiyan Gohan wasn't stronger than Super Saiyan Goku at any point in the manga, as I saw somebody say that he was stronger here). Goten is Gohan's younger brother and Trunks' best friend. Saiyan saga he was launching a blast equivalent to a planet buster. Don't be fooled by lightning. Heck he would have stomped him in base. @dratini1331: Yeah in base level.When they turned SSJ and fired a simple Ki blast at her, she was crapping her pants at the power they released.I'd say above 18.If this was true about being around 18 power level, then their fusions shouldn't be as strong as to the point of surpassing SSJ2's and rivaling SSJ3's. Fusion changes things. Skinny Edit. Needless to say, both Goten and Trunks have a lot of training to do before they can hit the same power levels as their dear old dads, fusion or no. I would say SSj trunks is atleast twice as strong as goku was when goku first entered namek mainly for what probably was filler about trunks in vegetas gravity room that was at 200 times earths gravity where goku was struggling under the 100x earth gravity when he was training to get their and goten is somewhere close to that level based on the world tournament. How powerful would you say goten and trunks exactly are? However, because the Fusion Dance requires near-equal, if not identical power levels of each of the fused individuals, Trunks had to lower his power level to match Goten's since his was slightly higher from being one year older. Super Saiyan 2= Base x100. 500,000,000,000 Can fight Mira (Suppressed to above Super Saiyan 3 Goku and Majin Buu) 50x Base 2nd Grade Super Saiyan Edit. Even if they were above namek goku SOMEHOW, based on that one showcase against 18 they would still be below piccolo and future trunks. To be honest thats very hard to tell. Goten or Trunks. Use code memes for an Extra 10% discount ($99+)! Goten/Trunks were, as much as I hate to say it, at least on par with Final Form Freeza each, and if not then very close to. They're likely close to her level. Being near goku's level or vegeta's is ridiculous by all standards. Classic editor History Comments Share. In the ova with vegeta brother, they were fighting someone around frieza level, and is cannon since the battle of gods mentioned vegeta brother.So I said around future trunks lv or little bit above, before the hyperbolic time chamber training. (they showed nothing that suggested major improvement in the ROSAT) And plus the thing everyone is forgetting is that android 18 in the manga actually stomped the boys in a few pages and forced them to go SSJ. What Gohan did was just teach them as any instructor or coach would. Sure. We also know that Birus says that he doesn't feel Goku could've beaten Freeza when seeing him in base form, which most likely means he was examining Goku's full base potential, which at the time of the Buu Saga was 60mil, half of Freeza's maximum. This is something i been wondering and been speculating about for months ever since i been rewatching the Buu Saga from DBZ. Raditz vs. Goku and Piccolo. If you noticed when he showed up Whis and Beerus were surprised. Whether they meant Freeza's base (520k) or his final form (120mil) is ultimately never explained, or even if it was meant for when the two combined. So Birus' estimations of Goku's ability at standard are not without merit. She is after the prize money in the first place. Their SSJ fusion was around SSJ3 Goku and Fat Buu level from Goku's and Piccolo's words. Raditz vs Goku and Piccolo Farmer: 5 Raditz(Suppressed): 1,200 Piccolo(Weights): 322 Goku(Weights): 334 Gohan: 1 Chichi: 90 Piccolo: 322 Krillin: 206 Bulma: So they are weaker than Roshi in DB now?? Goten and trunks based on showcases are at the very least around android level maybe just maybe frieza first or second form level. Goten and Trunks must wait a full hour before fusing again. The power levels for the non-canon GT, which follow Goku saying that Rilldo is "stronger than Buu" . Funny thing is that was major downplay on eighteen. Goten and Trunks still haven't shown anything to put them on planet busting level let alone planet busting durability. Freeza’s Transformations= Form x2. 4 years ago. @deathhero61: The kids aren't that weak dude.They're just that powerful to do that to 18. Which may place Goten and Trunks around 1.5-2mil a piece. 3 years ago. Trunks is equal to Goku when he fought against Frieza on planet Namek, while fighting against Frieza's soldiers Trunks's power level only reads 5 on their scouters. Somehow? Base Edit. DBZ Power levels based of percentage I based these battles on what I view as power gaps. In the DBZ special movie involving the appearance of Vegeta's younger brother, Tarble, it had been mentioned that Abo and Cabo, two former special squad members on the same ranking as the Ginyu Force, had become as tough as Freeza. Goten & Trunks vs Cell Jr's Goten & Trunks (Base + Training) = 530,000,000 = Million Goten & Trunks (Mastered Super Saiyan) = 42,400,000,000 = Billion Cell J.R's (Rusty) = 4,240,000,000 = Billion They did a fusion dance in the manga Kale & Caulifla Kale (Mastered Super Saiyan Berserker) = 36,000,000,000,000,000,000 = Quintillion Kefla VS Gohan They haven't shown that level of ki output. 3,000,000. That was in the World Martial Arts right? (its likely that king cold knows of said transformation. These 2, while one was on top of another, gave Android 16 a fight in base form.When they turned Super Saiyan,18 started worrying about how Mighty Mask power level increased so much.When Trunks fired a simple Ki blast,18 crapped her pants at the blast coming at her.A simple Ki blast and these 2 kids got stronger in the ROSAT. Tier: At least High 4-C, 4-B as a Super Saiyan | 4-B | 4-B. We know that Goku and the rest of the Z fighters all suppress their power levels when they aren't fighting. The only people as of now that we know seen him transform that are still alive is the Z warriors. Classic editor History Talk (0) Share. It might seem it was a certain PL to achieve it at the surface, but is a Kid Trunks and Goten really the same power level as a highly trained, experienced, and toned Frieza Saga Goku. Their powers developed much faster than Goku or Gohans. The two young Super Saiyans then fused and became Super Saiyan Gotenks. She was surprised because her opponent was supposed to be a weak, pitiful human with no ability. I think the U7 Saiyans are a step above the U6 and personally think Goten and Trunks stomp them but wondering what everyone else thinks. He is theHumanandSaiyanhybrid son of BulmaandVegeta. As for where i'd rank them, they did give #18 some trouble in the tournament and there's no evidence to suggest she was holding back either. And I had made an argument of how frieza would be able to beat goten/trunks. They were later in the series, this is a shonen, power increases down series. Assuming he did held back it woudn't matter, most people who are weaker than goku would have had a harder time blocking trunks full swing strikes, goku did it with a finger while trunks was in SSJ(which to be honest that alone proves trunks wasn't holding back) Goku already seemed to be far above everyone else and the only reason why he lost to android 19 is because of his heart disease, if it wasn't for that he would have stomped 19 in a few minutes due to gero only gathering data up to the saiyan saga. 400,000,000,000 After training in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, said to be stronger than he previously was as a Super Saiyan (and at that time he was stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku) Fat Edit. She stomped vegeta so she wouldn't be scared of the kids turning ssj. And she even said that she underestimated them which suggest she was holding back. And what was shown may i ask? If Goten and Trunks have a higher base power level than Vegeta and Trunks did during the Android saga, then they wouldn't need FPSS. Also it was clear to everyone that Freeza transformed after King Cold and his crew recovered Freeza's body. Maybe. Goten and Trunks seem to have their power levels as equals, due to Goten and Trunks requesting fusion through multiple moments in Dragon Ball GT. If otherwise Zarbon wrecking Vegeta, Majin Buu stomping Adult SSJ2 Gohan/Supreme Kai, and any other occurrences would be labelled as plot induced stupidity, but it's really how the series goes about establishing their power. But their fusion before the ROSAT was pretty quantifiable. Unless you mean some how as in " you havent shown me why " and not " how could they get that strong" if you didnt mean the latter, my bad. Obvious denial. Freeza only ever stated that King Vegeta never saw him transform. Wow, humans > Trunks, in terms of power levels? Gohan wasn't that inexperienced when he fought Cell. Like - trivially losing to 18 to trivially dominating semi-perfect Cell level stuff, which is gigantic. 8.1 Piccolo Jr. Saga. ), Actually I'm gonna go a bit further, and probably rustle some jimmies too, and replace SSJ Goku with SSJ Kid Gohan. Multipliers. Vegeta also states that in the excitement of the fight that Trunks was forgetting his basic training. But yeah i'd say they are around frieza's level but not final form. I would say around base form Frieza or just above King Piccolo. Once she saw trunks energy blast she stated she had to end the fight quickly likely due to how the stadium would end up at the rate they were going. Goku traveled half of namek's distance in a few seconds in base form. they were hard pressed when fighting android 18. So you are telling me goku cannot launch nukes? These little guys have a huge advantage on Gohan in potential. He was able to learn MSSJ before he could fly. Trunks is stronger because of his age, he has one full year of training over Goten, and we've all seen what a Saiyain can accomplish in one year. However, because the Fusion Dance requires near-equal, if not identical power levels of each of the fused individuals, Trunks had to lower his power level to match Goten's, since his was slightly higher from being one year older. For example, Tien's power level during the Trunks Saga will be around 70,000 and will … As SSJ they'd be around 100mil respectively and working together could overwhelm Freeza. So my best estimates for these two are around Freeza's base level and Freeza's 1st form power. Kaioken= Base x1.5- 20. You keep thinking that. 8.1 Piccolo Jr. Saga. Trunks is equal to Goku when he fought against Frieza on planet Namek, while fighting against Frieza's soldiers Trunks's power level only reads 5 on their scouters. @pope052 , thoughts? Discussion had at work wondering what everyone thinks. Trunks and Goten were going all out while 18 was keeping herself restrained. It's more likely that as SSJ they are around Freeza's max level or above apiece. Which may be to say that Goten and Trunks (as individuals) working together could take out Freeza. Big Sok • 7 December 2019 • User blog:Big Sok. They created illusionary doppelgangers to confuse the boys. Who are they stronger than without fusion? Vegeta had a couple of massive power boosts during the Cell saga. Because we can compare feats right now and they are not even there yet i'd argue. so she probably under estimated how powerful ssj are when compared to ssj2 which beat cell. 1 Emperor Pilaf Saga; 2 Tournament Saga; 3 Red Ribbon Saga; 4 General Blue Saga; 5 Commander Red Saga; 6 Fortuneteller Baba Saga; 7 Tenshinhan Saga; 8 Piccolo Daimao Saga. Super Saiyan= x50. @reikai: It had to be base level Frieze because Tarble wasn't around when Frieza transformed. How that can be interpreted is anyone's guess. 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