أقرأ عن Zalama قصصأو انظر Zalama Dbs [2020] و على Zalama Vs Zeno. 10earthquakes 1 y 7 mo 29 d . That means, if Zalama survived Zenos attack, he would have no problem surviving, even if his counterpart lives in another time now. He and the Z-Warriors fight evil, powerful beings such as Frieza, Cell, Majin Buu and others in order to protect the Earth and even the universe at large. Heck, the three wolf fighters actually look straight out of Digimon as it is. Zeno was able to watch Vegeta and Jiren duke it down even during the later parts of the fight, you don't see Zeno using the Godpad anymore to watch fights happen. 10earthquakes 1 y 7 mo 29 d . That's one way to make an avatar . The super Dragon Balls were created by a being called Zalama, who was a Dragon God. The funny thing is that this chain could literally go on forever. This is now my head-canon until proven otherwise. The same goes for Zeno, who has the Grand Priest, the most powerful of all Angels by his side. Future Zen-oh survived all of the universes in Future Trunks' timeline being destroyed. Zeno can completely obliterate an entire reality without any visible degree of visible exertion and appears to be aware of much around him. He made them to be the size of planets, about 37,196 kilometers in circumference. Also, the Grand Priest is basically the Universal version of the Angels, thus his attendee must be logically the the Universal GoD. Dragon Ball - General This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. In Year 41 on the Divine Calendar, Zalama created the Super Dragon Balls. Tier: At least 3-B physically. Gods of Destruction are always attended by their assigned Angels. Origin. Template:Zalama/doc. If I remember correctly, in the episode where the Grand Priest was introduced, Whis told Goku that he was considered the 3rd strongest being in existence. Also, the Tournament in the U6 Saga took place somewhere on a "planet" between U6 and U7. For Dragon Ball: Xenoverse 2 on the PlayStation 4, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Super Shenron vs Zeno". Every Universe is contained within a "ball", and all of these balls are ordered like this. Zalama however created the Super Dragon Balls, which are scattered in two Universes. show 1 reply . Zeno is so far removed from dimensions, nobody can get into his place without permission. In the English dub, it is said that this divine dragon is Zalama. Kaioshin have exceptional powers, especially powers of creation. Assuming Super Dragonballs are limited by their creators power, then unless Zalama is more powerful than Zeno (which, seeing as hes yet to make an appearanc, is actually very likely from a storytelling point of view) then probably not. @blazeking22: This comment answers your question from this thread https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/dbz-wank-vs-naruto-wank-vs-bleach-wank-2095884/#js-message-13 LOL. Super Powers No Super Powers connected to Zalama. Zalama vs Zeno Sama. @LordTracer imagine if Zeno was that Zalama guy, you know the one responsible for creating the Super Dragon Balls. (Yeah we all know Zeno is the most powerful, c:) What do you guys think? discord.gg/dbz, Press J to jump to the feed. Super Shenron is a pure yellow color with a gold tone on his body, has bright crimson eyes, large bat wings instead of the feathery ones around the species he was designed from, coincidently has no legs, and spikes around his tail. He exists/lives outside of the Universes. If one dies, the other dies. 1. Nov 24, 2020 #1,586 I don't really get how Zeno's dimensional plurality could affect his rating, Godzilla has infinite version of himself but he still has a 2-A version. Rune King Thor vs Zeno Sama # Zeno Sama Ok. soratoumiga 1 y 7 mo 29 d . https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/dbz-wank-vs-naruto-wank-vs-bleach-wank-2095884/#js-message-13. Zeno is so far removed from dimensions, nobody can get into his place without permission. However, I think if he was indeed a Universal Kaioshin, he probably would be able to withstand Zenos attacks, as powerful as they might be. KEEP READING: Dragon Ball FighterZ Trailer Adds a Legendary Super Saiyan Future Zeno yells. I mean Zeno is a kid, so who knows! Zalama being immune to Zen-oh's destruction would make sense. Perhaps he was within one of the 6 that was destroyed. EOS GOKU will be OMNIPOTENT. [1]. After all, neither Gowasu, nor Shin (or their GoDs) died after they traveled to the the Future. So who is the Universal Kaioshin? 2-C via granting wishes. ?" Mind you, if Zeno died it would make the Grand Priest inactive, like the other angels, which means he has to do his bidding in either case. Frieza also presumes that the Super Shenron could … Anyway, that’s about it, just a small pet theory I had, since we know that Zeno isn’t actually as all-powerful as they made him out at first, with the whole not actually existing outside of the different timelines and stuff. Zalama floats before them. Now, I admit, this Theory isn’t without holes. Beerus wished to destroy the roots of the. He created the phrase to s… Shin stated that Zeno can't be destroyed, no matter what. - Nafylicious Author Muh Nur Anafy. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Update Zalama lebih kuat dari Zeno dan masih hidup di Universe 7??? Zalama created a nigh omnipotent being, who is capable of granting any wish aka zero limits. Who's more powerful? Zamasu, being a Kaioshin, (and basically sentient space dust at that point) could easily travel between the boundaries of the Universes and affect all the other ones. The God of Dragons designed them to be the size of planets, 37,196 kilometers. This whole "he blew up all the universes" thing needs to go away. A thread solely based on who you all think are the most powerful characters within the entirety of Dragon Ball itself, all ranked in a list, from whatever number you wish to start from, all the way down to number 1. Aliases: Place of birth: planet u1: First appearance: manga chapter 7 (dragon ball super) Alignment: Connections. Unless you saw something that I didn't, then, no, this isn't the case. Edit. My Theory is, that he and Zeno are in fact the universal (multiversal?) That's very arguable. super shenron vs zeno. Thing is, Future Zeno blew up all universes in Trunks’ timeline. level 2 Zeno blew up Universe 7 in Trunks' timeline. Posted by: No Comments I personally say Super Shenron has more power. Poor Goku just wants to get stronger and stronger but he ain't even a fly. Unless no one knows Zalama which makes some sense. Issue is, future Zeno blew up all universes in Trunks’ timeline. Occupation: dragon god: Base: Teams: No teams added. Rune King Thor vs Zeno Sama # piccolo and vegeta) acted towards Beerus at first. What if Zeno was a member of a family that each had their own multiverse, and Zeno's father is The Supreme Zeno King. Perhaps Zalama was forced to be sealed away somewhere like the Old Kai and the Z Sword and this is the balance they conceived. All Zeno really wants to do is hang out and have fun, maybe play a board game or something. From lore Zeno should be above him and everyone else besides future Zeno who he's tied with. But another discrepancy comes from the fact that Zeno is also able to track fights without the use of Godpads, ex. Zeno doesn't even have that. This means that she's achieved a feat that yields above the Angels, Zeno's Guards (including Zeno himself), and Zalama since they seem restricted to the will of the author. Remember, all of the universes are separated from each other. Poor Goku just wants to get stronger and stronger but he ain't even a fly. ZALAMA IS COMING. To add on to it, perhaps Zeno was too destructive and Zalama used the Super Dragon Balls to wish him as an immortal child. Zalama is the God of Dragons who created the Super Dragon Balls. So far, we know that only very few people can travel outside their Universe of birth: The Angels, the Kaioshins and Zeno (presumably). Archon (アルコン), also known as Evil Omni-King Archon (悪オムニキングアルコン) is the ultimate and powerful fusion is beyond of all powerful race that his strength is unlimited and beyond of life was fusion with a Dragon God Zalama along with Demigra, Black Pharaoh Beerus, Lord Erion and two other God-like deity as well. Nothing much, apart from destroying a few Universes. Buu at least knows how to heal. Well done, bravo. So I assume that the same would apply to Zalama. Thing is, Future Zeno blew up all universes in Trunks’ timeline. Give me toriyamas phone number and i'll get right to it ;P. In theory, yes he would be. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. I wish for the Universes you destroyed to be brought back!" For example, GoDs and Kaioshins lives are linked. When an omnipotent being like Zeno's says he can "do anything", that basically gave you the answer. If he appears inside of one universe, there's no reason to suspect that he's going to have an affect on the other universes. Zalama. Anyway, let me start with the Dragon God Zalama, the creator of the Super Dragon Balls and his connection with Zeno. I think that feat alone makes him an equal to Zeno. 15 zeno (dragon ball super) We hope that Goku will be in a happy, playful mood for this battle, as that might make the difference in him living a few minutes longer than he would otherwise. But yeah, this is actually a pretty solid theory. "What do you mean, ?!" Zeno is the GoD of all Universes, Zalama his counterpart. I was thinking of this the other day. Let me elaborate: First of all, what makes a God of Destruction? Where does Zalama live? None of it is something that couldn’t be explained in some other way. It's canon that Zeno rules above all. Beerus pales once again 'Lord Zeno might destroy us.' however, I think if he turned into certainly a normal Kaioshin, he probable could be able to face up to Zenos attacks, as effective as they is probably. Vegeta vs Jiren. That means all Universes exist in the same physical space. Along the way, he makes powerful allies and even befriends former enemies such as Piccolo and Vegeta. After all, what would happen if Zen-oh destroyed a universe that Zalama happened to be in, without being aware Zalama was there? Goku pressed the button from within future Universe 7, Zeno appeared in Universe 7, and blew it up. Mind-blown. 2. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. I just assume that all fictional universes exist in their own spaces and, at some point, Toei will start running out of ideas and decide that the Dragon Ball universes need to interact with Devilman or Sailor Moon or Digimon or something. A year later, he patented the technology that made star marks on Super Dragon Balls look the same from every angle. October 31, 2020. Their main purpose – as the name implies – the destruction of life in a Universe in order for new life in the Universe – created by the Gods of creation, the Kais and especially the Kaishin – to sprout. (How does this work?) But that means Goku took the "Supreme" GoD out of that timeline. Zarama could have possibly been the King of Everything at one point, and eventually he either grew too old and appointed Zeno as his successor, or was killed off before being able to officially crown Zeno himself before passing on into the the next life. Classic editor History Comments Share. (Unlikely lol). At the very least he hasn’t shown any affinity to create anything. Rune King Thor vs Zeno Sama # Zeno Sama @10quakes I agree, don't 'lol' facts. Commanding the deepest respect from Beerus, Zeno is the most powerful being in the Dragon Ball mythos to date. This would actually make a whole lot of sense. therefore, future Zalama could had been killed as well, and by proxy, destiny Zeno would have committed essentially suicide. Zalama created Super Shenron and the Super Dragon Balls, which were then used by the Namekians to create Poruga and, in turn, Shenron and the Earth dragon balls were based on the Namekian balls. Dragon Ball Wiki is a FANDOM Anime Community. Characters who cannot die of natural causes. Or maybe he managed to dodge the attack by teleporting somewhere the attack wouldn’t reach him. He is incomprehensibly large in size, shown to be many times more colossal than the multiple amount of galaxies between Universes 6 and 7; this makes him without question the largest Eternal Dragon … I think there is no doubt that Zalama must be powerful. "What is your wish? The Present Zeno looks to the ground, wondering why Son Goku would say such things. Creator: Shueisha: Full name: Alter Egos: No alter egos found. That would also play into all those "the Grand Priest is evil" Theories. 2 months ago finalbeta Another theory, is that it's also entirely possible that the Grand Priest is an avatar or agent of Zalama and is trying to bring back all the Universes that were destroyed so Zalama can be brought back. Zamasu (in Japanese: ザマス), alternatively spelled as Zamas in the manga and Dragon Ball Fusions, is the main antagonist of the "Future Trunks" Saga in Dragon Ball Super, and a major antagonist in the Dragon Ball Heroes anime. Visit Template:Zalama/doc to edit this documentation. Thus, Future Zalama would have been killed as well, and by proxy, Future Zeno would have committed essentially suicide. Dragomer. Goku sighs, "Please don't get mad, Zeno's. Now what has Zeno really been doing in Super? @cyberblades22: EOS goku wishes for Zalama power thus becoming omnipotent and stomps all anime characters but only second to Toribot with omnivastance. He kind of has the mindset of Buu; he's bored and wants to play but gets incredibly destructive if upset. Zeno and Zarama have their multiverse, that multiverse is part of an ultraverse with more Angels and GoDs, that ultraverse is part of a gigaverse with their own Angels and GoDs, and so on and so on until we reach the most ridiculous level: a Suggsverse. Edit: And thinking about how all the gods react to Zeno, just as the mortals (at least the ones in the know i.e. Pada anime Dragon Ball Super episode 31, Bulma pergi ke luar angkasa bersama Jaco menemui Zuno Sama untuk menanyakan tentang Super Dragon Ball. So now we have a future Zalama who creates but no balance. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, A subreddit for all things Dragon Ball! Template documentation follows Note: the template above may sometimes be partially or fully invisible. This is the first place after r/whowouldwin that I have ever seen Suggsverse referenced. Rune King Thor vs Zeno Sama # Zeno Sama Zeno stomps, no diff. It's not logical. After all, he created the Super Dragon Balls and Super Shenron, who seems to outshine even the Angels, which are some of the most powerful beings in the Multiverse. Published April 02, 2018. So, before you read this, I must warn you that pretty much anything I write in this post are just some ideas I have been throwing around in my head for some time. 2. Everybody else, including the GoDs need the help from the Angels in order to travel to another Universe or Zenos Palace. In Year 42, Zalama created a refraction technique that allowed the stars om the Super Dragon Balls to look at you from every angle. The dragon god zalamaMUSIC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4JjE5I2kLIhttps://twitter.com/joexwild Though, as it stands, we have no confirmation for one thing or another, because they left the timeline shortly after the destruction of U7/The whole future World of Dragon Ball. 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Others 4 Discussions Super Shenron(スーパーシェンロン,Sūpā Shenron) is the magical and gigantic dragon who comes forth when theSuper Dragon Ballsare gathered. This would make so much sense and would be such a perfect twist in line with the previous few arcs. 1. Zalama really has 0 zero feats besides us knowing he made the super dragon balls and super shenron who can grant wishes without limits and even reverse the effects of universal erasure from Zeno, tho one could argue that Zeno didn't permanently erase them since he predicted the winner of the TOP would wish them back and he's also erased universal Zamasu who got complete immortality from super shenron. He wants to stop Zeno from destroying the Universes (including his children), but he simply can't as that would mean his own death, at least kind of. There's also the fact that Grand Priest is the strongest in the universe (besides Zeno) and the number 1 of the top 5 strongest in the multiverse so he's probably above Zalama too (assuming Zalama is a fighter). The Zeno's ask. Remember, all of the universes are separated from each other. That’s not really something a neutral god would do, unless they had some other god to balance this destruction. That means, if my Theory is correct, that Zeno is the Universal equivalent of the GoDs. Zalama formed the Super Dragon Balls in the forty-first year of the Divine Calendar. As you might guess, I think Zalama fits that position perfectly, at least out of all the characters we know so far. 3,176 949. versions of the Kaioshins and Gods of Destruction respectively. Daishinkan vs Zalama would be nice to see. Zeno and Zarama have their multiverse, that multiverse is part of an ultraverse with more Angels and GoDs, that ultraverse is part of a gigaverse with their own Angels and GoDs, and so on and so on until we reach the most ridiculous level: a Suggsverse. That means Zalama must be powerful and high-ranking enough to travel between U6 and U7, and presumably every other Universe. Also, we know that this connection exists even if someone travels into another timeline. level 1 … I totally agree. 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