Shooting these little carbines is a pleasant experience with all loads tested. When loading the slow burners, keep in mind that, as a rule, ignition is more reliable and burn is more complete when they are compressed by a seated bullet. After a while, however, even the most recoil-tough shooter looks forward to toning things down a bit. Thread Status: Not open for further replies. Burned Out; Classifieds; 2,377 posts; Gender: Male; Location: Tampa, Florida; Share; Posted February 2, 2007. The.44 Special is an often-overlooked cartridge that offers some serious benefits. Delaware Division of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: And if you want a plinkin load with lead for the mag cases, use 8 grains of unique under a 240 grain hardcast boolit. At least in my hands, it’s more accurate in the iron-sighted Winchester than the scope-sighted Marlin. His is a Lyman 429421 Keith bullet over a load of 2400: he had to do some 'sperimentin' as he found best accuracy within a window of only about 1/2 gr in his gun, somewhere about 1/2 to 1 gr below the Alliant book max, if memory serves. Of the over 100,000.44 Mag loads I have fired, over 80% of them have been 25 H110/296 and a 250 Keith, the Hensley & Gibbs #503. Experimenters such as Elmer Keith proved that a heavily loaded .44 Special was very effective on big game. Keith pestered the ammo companies to bring out heavier .44 Special loads, but there was a fear that such powerful loads would blow up an older, weaker revolver. The Smith & Wesson Model 29 .44 Remington Magnum has always been a favorite revolver for sport and pleasure.Filled with .44 Magnum cartridges, it is ready for target practice or hunting. The same applies to Accurate 4100 and Enforcer powders. All Shooting Times subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. Indiana Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: Midway 44 mag Loadmap Accurate Arms Web Load data for AA#9 Thanks in advance. When I started loading for the .44 Magnum, carbide sizing dies had not yet arrived. im getting ready to shoot some wild hogs with my 44 magnum rifle. LOAD GUIDE FOR RIFLE AND HANDGUN EDITION 3.5 INCLUDES: • The most up-to-date and comprehensive 223 Rem data available • New data for: 30 AR, 30 T/C, and 6mmx45 PO B o x 158 • M iles C i t y, M o n tana 59301 RELOADING POWDERS Gun Care Products Other superior products It was - and still is - a great choice for reduced-recoil .44 Magnum practice loads. Posted February 2, 2007. My handgun load and rifle load has settled on the 180gr Sierra JHC over a Speer #8 Manual charge of H110/WW296. Over the years I have played with Unique, 2400, Lil' Gun and H110/W296. Hawaii Department of Land & Natural Resources, State Agency: Velocities are modest, typically ranging from 650 fps to around 1,000 fps. Illinois Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: The limiting factor of the .44 Magnum cartridge is not terminal ballistics. The 300 grain hardcast bullets are also pretty accurate but I like JJ's advice on bullet choices. Stick with the Hornady XTP, and a slow burning powder. South Carolina Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 8:59 pm . The single best powder for full.44 loads is WW296/H110 or other surplus equivalent. Mikey. A military-surplus powder produced by Hercules during the war for the.30 Carbine called H240 was a bit quicker burning than 2400, but it delivered higher velocities and burned cleaner. Muzzle flash from Lil'Gun in the 4.63-inch barrel was something to behold, and Power Pro 300-MP was close behind. if the forcing cone is a little deep or raw in you Abilene, the longer wheelbase may shoot tighter. Based on my limited experience with it, I will have to say it is likely built to slightly different specifications, but the two powders are darned close in performance. I handload my Ruger redhawk 44,in a 7 1/2 bbl; Handi rifle in 444 and 44 mag, all with 240gr, XTP. The.44 Mag. To maximize performance, the ballistics experts at Hodgdon Powder Co., Inc. have developed a comprehensive Reloading Guide to provide handloaders with current data for Accurate Powders. The .44 Special is based on the black-powder .44 Russian case that earned a superb accuracy reputation in domestic and international target competition. It also had better sights and proved to be a bit more accurate as well. This action, being shorter, is felt to be better suited to sixgun cartridges than the .30-30 length 336 action. Marlin also made a special run of Trapper-style 1894 carbines in .44 Magnum with a 16-1/2″ barrel, full magazine tube holding seven or eight rounds, a recoil pad on its straight gripped stock, checkering on forearm and buttstock and excellent sights. Based on my test results, I will have to say no, with one caveat. Harmon, My brother hunts hogs and owns a Ruger .44 Mag carbine. Hope this helps and good luck. I had a Henry big boy for years and this is what it shot best. North Carolina Wildlife Resources Commission, State Agency: Right now I am thinking either 225 or 240 grain HP bullet and maybe Hodgdon H110 as a starting point but if you guys know a better combination I am all ears. John uses a variety of jacketed bullets in loads for the .44 Magnum levergun. These are not the powders to use for reduced-velocity loads. Turned off: Joined: Sat May 21, 2016 11:28 am Posts: 1076 Location: Shiner, TX I like 10 grains of Unique with Elmer's bullet! Due to the supply problems I've been forced to change up. Twist Rate: 1:20” Barrel: Wiseman 44 Remington Magnum 44 Remington Magnum Maximum Loads Should Be Used With Caution - Always Start With Minimum Loads. Ruger offers several MUCH better options in .44 magnum that will outlast generations of shooters with a steady diet of magnum loads up to and including heavy loads from Buffalo Bore (and others) that aren't supposed to be fired out of a Pietta. Subscriber Services. During the early 1960s, Hodgdon introduced H110, a military-surplus powder developed by Olin/Winchester during World War II for the .30 Carbine. Most jacketed bullets will not be a problem unless they are long, heavyweight designs. Nevada Department of Wildlife, State Agency: Not for hunting but for target shooting, so velocity is not a concern, nor is bullet construction. I eventually settled on a grain less for that first Model 29 in .44 Magnum. My full house .44 load is a 240 gr Lee SWC w/ a gas check, sitting atop the Winchester book load of 296. Of course, representatives from both companies did not give him the answer he was searching for. Purchase A PDF Download Of The GUNS Magazine October 2020 Issue Now! No muzzle flash was observed from either of those two powders when shot in the longer barrels. Two excellent powders for loading the .44 Magnum are #2400 and H110. The most accurate loads from my 44 Magnum Mountain Gun are the 240s, whether jacketed HPs, softnoses or hardcast over charges of 296/H110 or 2400. Kansas Department of Wildlife, Parks & Tourism, State Agency: loads for … data is substantially expanded to include 17 cast and jacketed bullets weighing up to 355 grains. The old ones still keep on working. Washington Department of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: In 1969, the Marlin 1894 was resurrected and offered in .44 Magnum. Over the past 50+ years a lot of .44 long guns have come and gone, however this Marlin 336 remains a favorite. All handguns are different, but normally bullets have a bigger impact on accuracy and performance than powders. Unfortunately, Hodgdon's supply was soon exhausted. Florida Fish & Wildlife Conservation Commission, State Agency: Arkansas Game & Fish Commission, State Agency: The Lyman reloading manual on my loading bench listed 23.0 grains of 2400 as maximum for a velocity of 1,460 fps. Arizona Game & Fish Department, State Agency: I have pissed off a neighbor when I shot a 2" group @ 100 yards with a 245 gr Keith SWC load with my Ruger SBH 7.5" VS … Matched with my ever-present Bear Buster Ruger 4-5/8" .44 Flat-Top, it made the perfect sixgun/levergun combination for deep woods hunting. In a long barrel like that I'd start with a light load and begin experimenting. Josh Wayner for TTAG. With the Lyman/Thompson #431244GC over 20.0 grains of #2400 results in 1,550 fps and a 1-1/2" group with iron sights at 50 yards while the NEI 429.295GC over 21.5 grains of WW296 shoots into the same group size with a muzzle velocity of 1,550 fps. Thanks in advance mcb. The result is an even-easier and faster handling big bore carbine. I went on to say that any chamber pressure/velocity differences between the two are due to slight burn rate variations from one manufacturing lot to the next. Once they did I purchased both RCBS and Redding .44 Magnum Carbide reloading dies and have been using them for at least 40+ years. Utah Division of Wildlife Resources, State Agency: fordwannabe Advanced Levergunner … Save … If the guy who wrote that nasty letter about three decades ago is still capable of reading small print and has a copy of Hodgdon's latest Annual Manual, he may see that listed charge weights, velocities and pressures for the two powders are identical. It is also a bullet which, due to the placement of the crimping groove, works in every .44 Magnum levergun of my experience. Georgia Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: *Most Accurate Load C Compressed Load 1. For maximum velocity in .44 Mag ammo reloads, slow-burning powders are recommended. This holds especially true under frigid ambient conditions. L9X25. I reviewed the Ruger Super Blackhawk Hunter here last year. ISS Prop House gives us the rundown on the guns used in Enemy at the Gate. 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The .44 Special (center) was based on a lengthened .44 Russian cartridge (left), while the .44 Remington Magnum (right) is based on a lengthened .44 Special case. Steve Mag primer.44 Mag case Sierra 240 JHC 22.5-24/H110 or 296 Mag primer.44 Mag case. I had a Henry big boy for years and this is what it shot best. Joined: Jun 29, 2009 Messages: 1,223 Location: Huntsville, AL. Unique was also popular for .44 Magnum, but a maximum load produced lower velocities than the other powders. The .44 Magnum levergun takes over where the .357 Magnum levergun leaves off, able to handle a few heavier chores. To accomplish this with the 336 .44 Magnum, I sent it off to my now-late friend gunsmith Keith DeHart to have the barrel cut to 18-1/2" and the overly abundant forearm and butt stock, both made of too much quality walnut, slimmed down. When Winchester made W296 available to handloaders back in the 1970s, load data published by the company had only one charge listed for each bullet weight, and it warned against any reduction in charge weight. Moreover, handloaders are cautioned against using less powder than the starting charge shown in reloading manuals. A heavy crimp is necessary not only for aiding in starting the burning process but also for keeping the cartridges from being pushed down into the case while riding in the magazine. To maximize performance, the ballistics experts at Hodgdon Powder Co., Inc. have developed a comprehensive Reloading Guide to provide handloaders with current data for Accurate Powders. Reloading and shooting/hunting with the the 44 Mag in S&W 29s/Ruger Super Blackhawks and Win M94 and Ruger Carbine rifles I have a little bit of experince. Mississippi Deptartment of Wildlife, Fisheries & Parks, State Agency: Unique loads for 44 magnum looking for a window using Unique and a 265 gr Keith style boolit thanks ... but MAG loads are full house all the way, baby!!!!! The Alliant data uses Federal 150 instead. Two additional grains behind the 300-grain Swift A-Frame produced about 100 fps higher velocities than W296 in the two shorter barrels, but velocity was a bit lower in the 20-inch barrel. It can also be used effectively in rifle cartridges, like the 30-06, so it's a good one to have for the magnum pistol loads and for rifle. Alaska Department of Fish & Game, State Agency: This is a common combination for hunters in heavy brush, as well as in certain cowboy action shooting competitions. This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. Never saw a real need for anything else. All Palmetto Reloading Gear/Accessories! Examples include 225- to 250-grian cast bullets at 700 to 900 fps, with most being on par with or exceeding .45 ACP power. All Reloader Gear. The 4.5 grain load is accurate in several revolvers. Don't whimp out on us! It is a large, single-action revolver that is meant to be used a primary as a hunting weapon. Outta my 629 I get the most accurate results using H110/W296 with the true "magnum" loads. pretty much all the 'magnum' powders listed for the.44 mag are suited to the longer barrel. I have used 10.0 gr. I purchased the first one to hit town and it has now served me well for over 50 years. The answer to the question of whether or not velocities with the two types of primers will be as close during extremely cold weather will have to wait until winter. Midway 44 mag Loadmap Accurate Arms Web Load data for AA#9 Thanks in advance. We return to Smith & Wesson in order to review another of … We look at the futuristic .450 Bushmaster and how it compares to the tried and true .45-70. Alabama Department of Conservation & Natural Resources. Very accurate and chronographs right at 1350fps. Bruce in WV Post subject: Re: Favorite Accuracy Loads for .44 Mag. handloader with current data for reloading Accurate powders. I had just started playing with their .44 bullets, and that’s what I used for plinking loads in the .50AE. This was, and continues to be, a most excellent and powerful load. It handles all 2-1/2-inch, ½-oz. In an attempt to prove me wrong, he contacted Hodgdon and Winchester. Ok, I used to load with accurate #7 using hornady xtp 240 gr jhp. 429360 mold. Accurate #9 Experience in 44 Mag? Min Charge Max Charge Optimal Charge Bullet Make Bullet Type for the 429-421 and the RCBS clone, 8.5 - 10 grains has been the range I have used, but the 8.5 grain load was more accurate for me and was the load I used the most. The Special case was lengthened from .97 inch to 1.16 inches and originally loaded with black powder, receiving 3 grains more than the Russian cartridge for a boost in velocity. 23 grains over a WLP primer for range shooting and 23.6 for the woods. Accurate now has reintroduced XMP-5744, a slow burning, bulky powder and is good in magnum pistol loads. All the top-end reloading data with pressure-tested data shows.44 Magnum loads maxing out at 35,000 psi (or 38,000 CUP). Legendary for its performance in .44 magnum and other magnum pistol loads. The most accurate loads from my 44 Magnum Mountain Gun are the 240s, whether jacketed HPs, softnoses or hardcast over charges of 296/H110 or 2400. Principal Purpose: Magnum handgun loads Secondary Uses: .22 Hornet and 218 Bee Remarks: Legendary for its performance in .44 Mag and other magnum pistol loads. Any loads destined to be used in a lever gun should first have several dummies made up and checked for feeding through the action and chambering. 175 Gr. I find TightGroup equal to Bullseye, These loads are TightGroup in Special brass in a 5 1/2 inch 629 with 429421. However, I’ve never had any problems with the M336 action and .44 Magnum cartridges. This ball powder was designed for the.30 Carbine and magnum handgunners have adopted it with good reason. Link to post Share on other sites. I have only ever loaded 240s in .44 mag. When Hodgdon introduced H4227 during the 1950s, it was military surplus made by DuPont and therefore the same powder DuPont had been selling as IMR 4227 since 1935. But is the new powder the same as W296/H110? Rhode Island Department of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: Part of the .44 Magnum’s versatility stems from the fact that it will perform beautifully with light target loads that are comfortable, accurate and yet still effective for many applications. The old ones still keep on working. The .44 Magnum is a powerful revolver cartridge. New Jersey Division of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: Experimenters such as Elmer Keith proved that a heavily loaded .44 Special was very effective on big game. That explained differing maximum charge weights published for the two powders in various reloading manuals for .44 Magnum loads. ©2020 Outdoor Sportsman Group. 800x. Hodgdon's load data for the.44 Spl. This ball powder was designed for the .30 Carbine and magnum handgunners have adopted it with good reason. Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: They bought Super Blackhawks, but after comparing trigger quality, I scraped up the additional $25 for an S&W Model 29 with a 6.5-inch barrel. It was notable as the first magazine ever dedicated to articles on firearms, and it led the way as over the next few years three more purely gun magazines arrived. Henry USA, of course, also makes a few. First, the .327 can be very accurate; however, many loads – including some factory loads – have very high extreme velocity spreads and only offer mediocre accuracy. A couple of shooting buddies and I caught the .44 Magnum fever soon after Ruger introduced its single-action Super Blackhawk in 1960. The .44 Magnum is a powerful revolver cartridge. For a while .44 Magnum cases were not easy to come by, so the only shooter I knew who owned a revolver chambered for it at the time mostly used .44 Special cases. Outta my 629 I get the most accurate results using H110/W296 with the true "magnum" loads. Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:20 pm . Post subject: Re: Favorite Accuracy Loads for .44 Mag. Originally developed for the .22 Hornet, it's also the shooter's choice for .410 bore. All excellent hunting loads. When Hodgdon's supply of war-surplus powder was exhausted, the company turned to the Olin Corporation Powder Operations in St. Marks, Florida, where it was still being made. Do primers make a difference with the new powder? i have some 240 grain remington factory ammo, 180 factory ammo, some speer 270 grain gold dot factory ammo.. and a bunch of handloads with H110 and 300 grain XTPs. I use H-110 powder for all my deer hunting loads, shoot HP-38, and titegroup for my lighter loads for playing around. 44 Magnum: 1200 ft-lb: 500 S&W Magnum (light) 550 ft-lb: 500 S&W Magnum (full-power) 2000 – 2600 ft-lb: Needless to say, the 500 S&W Magnum packs an amazing punch- pushing 500 grains of lead down range at supersonic speed. loads, as well as all 11/16-oz. Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by TenDriver, Feb 16, 2014. A number of rifles and carbines in the Henry Big Boy series are offered in .44 Magnum (most actually, and plenty in .357 Magnum and .45 Colt as well) so there are a number to choose from.. A good starting point is the Big Boy Classic (that’s the Golden Boy, above) , with Henry’s signature brass receiver and octagonal 20-inch barrel. comprises a half-dozen mostly flatpoint or semiwadcutter cast bullets weighing from 165 to 240 grains. I've found 8.5 gr Unique under 240 - 255 gr cast bullets to be a very accurate and comfortable 1000 - 1050 fps mid-range load in the 44 Magnum. Powder Bul Weight C.O.L. Well, at least there weren’t any in bygone days! To view this Reloading Guide in a PDF format, click the red button below. The current Winchester Model 1892 and the Ruger Model 77/44 are capable of shooting inside 2 inches at 50 yards. Silhouette shooters claim it is the most accurate 44 powder they have ever used. I would use 2400, 20 grains under the 240s and 22 grains under the 200s. IMR 4227 and H4227 rank among the best at delivering low velocity spreads for the .44 Magnum. Palmettostatearmory. While the .32 H&R Magnum doesn't get the attention it deserves, plenty of handloading... Handloading the .38 WCF is a bit more involved than handloading for other cartridges, but... Give a Gift   When the.44 Mag was introduced in 1955, Hercules 2400 and IMR 4227 soon became the most popular powders for.44 Magnum hand-loads. His is a Lyman 429421 Keith bullet over a load of 2400: he had to do some 'sperimentin' as he found best accuracy within a window of only about 1/2 gr in his gun, somewhere about 1/2 to 1 gr below the Alliant book max, if memory serves. However, it’s not needed on a daily basis. TenDriver Member. If you plan on hunting with .44 mag in a lever-action rifle, this is the … I'm using X-treme plated 240 gr RN bullets 5.8 gr 231 ~1.610" COL WLP Primers Light crimp, just enough to keep the bullets from being pushed into the case by hand. In the 1960s, the Marlin 336, a long-time deer hunter’s favorite offered in .30-30 and .35 Remington, was brought forth as the sixgunner’s companion in .44 Magnum. hard cast bullet over 22.5 grains of #2400 for around 1,400 fps or more. Keith Feeley of Tactical Solutions sat down with Michael Bane at SHOT Show 2018 to talk about the new X-Ring Takedown SBR .22LR rifle. The above loads don’t even scratch the surface, as there are many very accurate .44 Mag loads. Like W296/H110, it is a double-base spherical propellant made at St. Marks. When first learning of the new powder, I assumed it would require the use of a magnum primer, such as CCI 350 or Federal 155. About 10 years later, Winchester made fresh batches of the same powder available to handloaders as W296. Get a copy of their booklet and check this powder out. So I finally snuck out to the range to test out some lighter powder puff 44 mag loads that I plan to use for indoor/winter shooting since we can't shoot jacketed or magnum rounds indoors. Never saw a real need for anything else. The Smith & Wesson Model 29 .44 Remington Magnum has always been a favorite revolver for sport and pleasure.Filled with .44 Magnum cartridges, it is ready for target practice or hunting. The .44 Remington Magnum is a versatile cartridge in a revolver due to a wide variety of bullet weights and assortment of suitable propellants. You can learn to shoot a revolver accurately with such loads. L9X25. The last .44 Magnum gun on my list is a bit of a specialty item. Canister Sizes: View All 2400 ® … I used Accurate 1680, but not sure if it is still available. Its charge weight to velocity ratio varies as bullet weight and barrel length vary. Faster-burning powders are better for practice loads in the .44 Magnum, but for maximum velocities, the slowpokes get the nod. South Dakota Game, Fish & Parks, State Agency: While Federal 150 is rated a bit hotter than CCI 300, it is not rated as hot as CCI 350 and Federal 155. Pennsylvania Game Commission, State Agency: A database of .44 Remington Magnum handloads. We ping steel with a .300 WinMag at over a mile. My Taurus Raging Bull 44 Mag with 8-3/8" barrel likes the 300gr Hornady XTP the best (2.5" groups at 100 yards) and the 180gr Hornady XTPs are extremely accurate in both of my 10mm Auto handguns (Kimber Eclipse Custom II and Glock 20 Gen 4) Seems my 44 shoots just about the same with pretty much any powder I put in it. They refused to comment simply because in those days they were competitors. Actually, I also like Elmer Keith's old load using a 250 grain hardcast bullet over 2400 powder. Michigan Deptartment of Natural Resources, State Agency: Other members will be along shortly with their hunting loads using your particular powders. Most hand-loaders who use W296/H110 know that a magnum primer is recommended for uniform ignition. 3.7 grains 560fps, 4.0 grains 623 fps, 4.5 grains 660 fps. Match, Tactical Solutions Introduces New X-Ring Takedown SBR Rifle. The following groups are for three shots with the .44 Magnum Winchester Trapper at 50 yards using the factory iron sights: Hornady 240 JHP over 24.5 grains of WW296 gives 1,686 fps and a 1" group; Hornady 240 JHP, 22.0 grains #2400, 1,703 fps, 1"; Hornady 265 JFP, 23.0 grains WW296, 1,563 fps, 1"; Speer 240 JHP, 24.5 grains WW296, 1,723 fps, 1-3/8"; and Speer 240 JSP with 22.0 grains of #2400 results in a muzzle velocity of 1,711 fps and a 1-1/2" group. But in 1956 Keith's efforts culminated in the introduction of the .44 Magnum. This includes the Marlin 1894 and 336, Winchester 1894, Rossi and Browning Model 92s, and the Henry Big Boy. Top . Actually, I also like Elmer Keith's old load using a 250 grain hardcast bullet over 2400 powder. However, a real joy found in firearms is taking any one of many “near-perfect” sixguns or leverguns and making them even more near perfect! My first article was published in 1967 in the now long-gone magazine called GUNsport. As the chart shows, there were no appreciable differences in velocity when the standard CCI 300 and the magnum CCI 350 primers were used. |   And, after all this time, with everything I’ve read and everything I’ve written, there is one line that stands out and I consider the best words ever written — at least for those things I’m primarily interested in. Its weight averaged 256 grains when cast of scrap wheelweight metal. In addition, H110 is “the” choice for 410-bore shotgun, especially among top competitive skeet and sporting clays shooters. Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency, State Agency: The first bullet I loaded in the .44 Magnum was the Lyman No. The .44 Magnum has all the inherent accuracy of its parent .44 Special. 429421. A recent article in the September 'RIFLE Sporting Firearms Journal' outlined potential poor accuracy with modern .44 Magnum leverguns and their outdated 1:38" rifling twist that comes from the old days when .44-40 caliber Winchesters and Marlins shot blackpowder-propelled 200 grain lead bullets.

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